LAS VEGAS, NV – Those who’ve wondered if mega-controversial porn producer and director Rob Black has any limits were somewhat reassured during the Friday afternoon Taking It To The Extreme seminar. Along with Desert Entertertainment’s Dirty Danza, HowIGotRich.com’s Dirty D, and Cybernet Entertainment’s Tony Pirelli, three clear boundaries were articulates: no children, no animals, and nothing non-consensual. Just about anything else, however, was fair game.Even with that said, however, everyone, including Black, warned webmasters to be aware of local, state, and federal laws by consulting with an informed attorney – and even when well within the laws, brace for possible legal action. “If you’re going to be a producer of crazy shit, you have to be prepared for the possibility that you’ll be busted,” Black, who continues to face the strong likelihood of further federal obscenity prosecution, warned those assembled. He was equally emphatic that producers of softer and more familiar materials are kidding themselves if they think they’re safe from such a possible fate. “You even have to be careful with the more normal stuff,” he insisted. Given that formerly incarcerated Florida webmaster Chris Wilson’s bond revocation stemmed from ostensibly vanilla content, Black’s cautions seem likely to have value.

Moderator Fred Lane posed a number of question to the assembled edge-walking professionals, asking how pay rates compared to more conventional performances, how difficult it is to find models, and how Black, especially, felt about industry pressure to conform.

No one on the panel reported paying unusually large sums of money to their performers, and, instead, pointed out that in all cases, those interested in working for them either are already engaging in the activities being recorded or, at the very least, have a keen interest in exploring extreme play. Among those represented by the board were gangbangs, bukkakes, bondage, piss play, and rough sex.

Although all panel members spoke fairly frankly about their work, Black was unquestionably the star of the seminar, sometimes seeming almost embarrassed by the attention and at other times bursting angrily into a defense of his work, which he insisted has been inaccurately perceived as featuring “rape, fucking animals and stuff.” He informed those in attendance that his production company also releases more mainstream fair that he can and does recommend to his own mother. Although he admitted that his understanding of the internet was nowhere near as solid as his understanding of the more traditional videotape/DVD aspects of porn, he had harsh words for his critics who, he contended, wish to be seen as defenders of the First Amendment who have done their time in the trenches. “Copping pleas and paying fines is not fighting the good fight,” he said angrily. “They’re fuckin’ pussies who don’t want to fight. They want us to change so we don’t bring the heat down on them. That’s bullshit.”

Nonetheless, at least one audience member felt acutely uncomfortable with the idea that consenting adults should be allowed to do anything they wished to do on in front of a camera. Once at the Q&A microphone, the somewhat flustered man urged the panelists to provide him with a firm boundary. Black pointed out that much of what is being called “extreme” content is increasingly available in even mainstream videos. Searching for a specific issue for the panelists to address and declare verboten, the audience member asked for views on blood play, which none found offensive but which none participate in on any level.

Ultimately, Black spoke for all involved when he stated that the important issue is not whether or not it’s appropriate to “tie up some girl and fuck her,” as Pirelli put it, but privacy. “It’s being able to watch what you want in the privacy of your own home,” Black insisted.